OK, it started 2.30pm sunday arvo,power out,long nights,warm beer, sucky sucky suck suck, got the power back 10.30 am thursday, have found a whole new way of showering with a big pot of hot water ,flannel and soap,very japanesey......... but thanks for the info from VO ( always Mr good advice)and the ever present BOB (I hope its as clean as his in the end , good mate) after the week I've had its so nice to see lights and looking forward to a good long shower ;););););););0