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Offline Cameron 77C3

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« on: July 23, 2006, 09:23:08 PM »
That this beast, which was at MoterEx, use to belong to Jimmy Barns before it has it make over.  Just read it in Street Machine


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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2006, 09:29:43 PM »
Is that Bill (last name not posted for obvious reasons) Jr's old car?

I remember that car, some sneak peaks of it's build up photos were posted here at least a year back.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2006, 09:42:36 PM »
Don't know the answer to that one.  Some one else will hopefully chime in.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2006, 09:47:38 PM »
I'm pretty sure it would be Cam.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2006, 10:06:45 PM »
if that was gold before  there are some great vids of it on the net

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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2006, 08:38:38 AM »
Yeah, that's the one.  Though it looks a little golder than when it was in our club.

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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2006, 09:00:36 AM »
Howdy, Bill Jr here.
Yes, its my old car.  And before that, Mr Jimmy Barnes did own it for several years.  He had bought it from an importer named Bob Thomas, who specialised in bringing in old, crusty Vettes and selling them for cubic dollars to the rich and famous.  A blue 59 owned by John Laws was another high profile car.
A couple of years ago, the '62 was bought off me by a guy called Dave in Brisbane for his wife (he's got a C5 and a tripower C3, so you could say he's into Corvettes).  Somewhere along the line she decided it was too hard to drive (she's used to driving a Celica), so they went the whole C4 suspension upgrade route.  And then it sort of snowballed and now the car is totally rebuilt (again).  Some of the custom stuff on the car is amazingly cool.  I've not seen the car in person yet, but from the pics, its a jaw dropper.  Its an odd feeling to totally re-do a car, then have someone else re-do it "their way".   Not a bad feeling, just odd, sorta like seeing an ex-girlfriend get married to someone else.  Props to Dave for pulling off the first real "pro show" Corvette since Frank Rejitanos SMIK64.
Yes, the colour is different - its darker than the "original" shade of Fawn Beige that we did the car in.  Its some sort of kustom mix, one of the first cars to be done in this sort of paint in Australia.
Some pics of the car now are at http://www.ldikustoms.com.au/ and I'm sure Dave (as an ex-Computer dude) will have his own website blog of the rebuild set up one day.
For a historical standpoint, some pics of the car when I owned it are at http://www.artandcolour.com.au/corvette

It would be interesting to see how many people on this forum like the car
a) as it is now (jaw dropping show car) or
b) as it was when I owned it (fawn beige/red weekender) or
c) red on red basher when Jimmy owned it.

No prizes for guessing my choice.
 
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2006, 10:15:20 AM »
Well bugger me.  The man himself.  It's a pleasure to make you acquaintance squire.  Damm fine machine.  Here is a link with more pics from the MoterEx show http://www.nswcorvettes.com.au/photos/richardgriffiths/motorex06/index.htm in case you have not seen them.

Would you like me to set up a pole on: -

a) As it is now (jaw dropping show car) or
b) As it was when I owned it (fawn beige/red weekender) or
c) Red on red basher when Jimmy owned it.


It might be some fun.  People can vote and a bar graph would show up with the results.

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PS do you have any pics in its origanl colour (RED)
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2006, 10:29:03 AM »
Sure Cam, set up a poll.  
Pics of the RED car, as purchased from JB

[img=473x220]http://www.artandcolour.com.au/corvette/images/redvettb.jpg[/img]

[img=464x216]http://www.artandcolour.com.au/corvette/images/redvetta.jpg[/img]

Car WAS originally Fawn Beige, but I was unable to track down any history prior to its importation to Aust, back in the late '80s.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2006, 10:30:56 AM »
Thanks for that.

I'll set the pole up and see if we can have some fun.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2006, 10:42:01 AM »
(lets see if we can spruce this up a bit for ya.  Too good a read. Regards Cam)

I saw an ad in the paper one Saturday morning.  "Fully restored 1961 Corvette blah blah blah $40k" (yes, it said sixty ONE). I got excited because I really wanted a 61.  So I called, found out some details, was told it was JBs car, and that it was in Bowral (about 2 hours south of Sydney).So I called my old man, and we hopped in my trusty Mitsubishi Scorpion, and 1.5 hours later (yes, I WAS excited) we got to Jimmy's palace.

We spoke to some drugged-out looking dude who seemed to be part of Jimmy's band.  He gave us the keys and said something along the lines of "Jimmy aint here.  Here's the keys.  If you dont come back with the car, he will hunt you down and kill you".  I took the car for a shake down, giving it the respect that all old cars should be driven with.  Seriously.  Maybe got to 3/4 throttle once or twice.  Then my dad got hold of the car, and gave it a boot full.  He grinned wide, and giggled like a schoolboy, and over the roar of tyres and the engine he yelled "It's got some!".20 minutes later we got back to the palace.  Jimmy was there.  We chatted about the car, the condition of it, what modifications (?) had been done etc.  "I like the shape, its a hot rod" I remember Jimmy saying in a thick accent.  The car was fairly complete.  Rough, but complete.  And it was a 62.  At that stage I did not know the can of worms underneath the paint.  Had I known, I possibly would have offered him HALF of what I did.

I offered him what I thought would be a good price for the car.  He said no.  He'd spent a LOT of money on the car since he bought it (at a premium price, mind you) from Bob Thomas the infamous early Corvette importer.  We departed.

A few months passed, and I reckon I thought about that car every day.  Eventually, it got the better of me, and I hatched a plan.  A fiendish plan that would enlist the services of a third party, my sometime-girlfriend Karlene.  Unlike me, she is a people person.  Good at haggling, making a good sale or making a good purchase.  She's got the gift of the gab, a real life "How to Win Friends and Influence People" example.  I knew she'd have a better shot at getting Jimmy to drop his price, after all, its harder for a man to say no to a woman, than to another man.  We have very poor sales resistance when it comes to women, us blokes.But, I hit a snag.  Once I decided to make another play for the car, I went to my wallet to find the weathered newspaper clipping that I had tucked in behind my Mastercard, only to find it gone.  Damn, the spring cleaning of the wallet had seen the disposal of the only link I had to the car.  What to do?
Lucky for me, the Sydney library keeps a copy of all the newspapers on microfiche (I dont know if they STILL do...remember this is back in the early 90s, before scanners and the internet and back when an external 20mb hard drive for your computer meant you could store your whole life on disk).  I went to the libary, searched through hundreds of microfiches untill I found it.  The ad.  The phone number.  I called the number, and the car was still for sale.  I called Karlene.  At the time, she lived at Coffs Harbour (about 6.5 hours north of Sydney - yes, I now know long distance romances dont last, but I did not know that then).  Our on-again off-again romance was off-again, so it was a good chance to get in her good books and exceute some skull duggery.

I convinced her to fly to Sydney (hell, I'd even pay for the flight), and to call Jimmy Barnes and weigh in as a new contender for the car.  We drove down to Jimmy's, trying to role-play and come up with the best angle.  When we got there, we met Jimmy, did the introductions, and Karlene took off in the car, with one of Jimmy's roadies in the car with her.  20 minutes later, we could her the roar of the engine as the car approached.  And then we saw the smoke.  Thick, white bellowing smoke coming from the back of the car.  The car stopped, Karlene pulled the handbrake, gave me a look, and she too, grinned wide.  "Ho, hooo, she's a ripper....but whats going on here Jimmy, whats with the smoke?".Karlene had left the hand brake partially on when she had first taken off in the car.  Out on to the highway, hitting a reported 90+mph, the handbrake was still on!  She only realised this when she was pulling into Jimmy's driveway and could see the smoke all around (at that stage the car did not have the dash-mounted rear view mirror, so anything going on behind the car was normally inconsequential).  When she stopped the car after her "test drive", knowing her mistake, she did a great job covering up by pulling the handbrake on, even if it was two or three extra clicks.  The smoke was obviously from the brakes.There was a little banter, some looking under the car.  The only people who knew what had happened were Karlene and I.  So here's Jimmy, worried that his car was broken.  Trying to sell it to us, at asking price.

It was showtime."Look Jimmy, its a fast car, a classic, but there are some serious mechanical issues, look at the smoke.  I'd love to give you $x for it, but I just cant do that.  My offer is $y.  I'm flying back to Coffs tonight, here's my number, think about it, and give me a call when you want to sell the car".A week later, Karlene is back at Coffs Harbour, doing some study, and her mum comes in.  "Karlene, theres some Scottish man on the phone named Jimmy, and he says hes accepted your offer..."
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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2006, 10:50:48 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Billyray

[img=448x336]http://www.artandcolour.com.au/corvette/images/sunset.jpg[/img]

:spook :luv

I love the way it looks here (not wanting to take anything away from it's current setup).

Great story Bill. :v
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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2006, 10:55:19 AM »
The poll is up.  Lets go vote ant let Billyray know what we think.:22

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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2006, 01:10:27 PM »
Too funny Bill.  I reckon even Jimmy would have a chuckle at that!

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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2006, 10:11:29 PM »
So Billyray, I take it this is you in this video clip?  I was channel flicking the other day and came across it.  I missed the start though.
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« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2006, 10:26:16 PM »
nice video...500 hours on the body work!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2006, 08:57:18 AM »
Great find Thunder
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2006, 09:10:34 AM »
Yep, thats me.  The video was done by ABC, or Bris31 (or SBS, or one of those non-commercial stations nobody watches) for a show called "My Classic Car", I think.  This was filmed several years ago.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2006, 11:37:55 PM »
Actually my wifre thought it was fine to drive. She took it everywhere, it went to the shops, picked me up from the train station, went to the gym. With the 383 in it she was filling it up every couple of days. The owner of the local servo even gave her a discount card she was so regular. It was me that thought it drove like an old truck. Original idea was just to upgrade suspension and brakes and put the body back on, but as these things happen it all got out of hand.

In hindsight we should have just started with a wreck rather than destroying a nice car to create a custom, but the whole thing just evolved and by the time we finished pretty much the only things standard is part of the window frame and the top door hinges.

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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2006, 07:43:40 AM »
Dave, dude !
Compared to the Celica, I assumed Barb thought the 62 was a bit harder to drive.  It absolutely felt like an old truck to me.
Filling up the car every couple of days...yeah, it sounds like she was using it well.
Do you have any before/during/after pics on the web that you can share, or upload for the pleasure of the other forum members?  Any stories about the rebuild?  Custom things that nobody notices but should be told about?
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