New RMS rego

[rosco]

Just pulled this of the Mustang Owners Club site.
Makes for interesting reading.
Anyone else have any more information on this, to me it looks great.

Rosco

Dear customer

Thank you for your interest in the Log Book trial announced by the Minister for Roads, Maritime and Freight which will commence on 1 October 2015.

The trial will allow all operators of existing vehicles within the Historic Vehicle Scheme to opt-in. These vehicles may then be used for 60 days of general use (i.e. club events, maintenance and personal use) each year. Each day's use must be recorded in the Log Book.


Existing operators
To opt in, the registered operator or their representative must attend a registry or service centre with:
- proof of identity such as a NSW driver licence,
- the current Certificate of Conditional Registration (if available),
- the current Certificate of Approved Operations (if available)
- a completed Adjustment of records to have the vehicle's conditions updated


New operators
New entrants to the Historic Vehicle Scheme after the trial commences may apply for inclusion in the Log Book Trial, subject to the existing historic vehicle and registered operator eligibility criteria.

To conditionally register a vehicle in the Historic Vehicle Scheme, customers must provide:
- a completed Application for Conditional Registration form (http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/about/forms/45070939-conditional-reg.pdf)
- proof of identity such as a NSW driver licence
- Proof of registration entitlement (eg an original receipt for the vehicle, which clearly shows the buyer's name, the seller's name, address and signature, the VIN or Chassis/frame or serial number and the date of acquisition)
- A Historic Vehicle Declaration not greater than 42 days old
  (http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/about/forms/45070967-historic-vehicle-declaration.pdf)
  Note: a vehicle safety inspection report must be presented if the club is less than two years old.


Existing and new operators will be issued:
- Certificate of Conditional Registration
- Certificate of Approved Operations, with the updated conditions
- Historic Vehicle Log Book Trial form

Historic vehicles (including trailers) must be 30 years of age or older as from the year of manufacture.

Historic vehicles must be as close to original condition as possible, with no alterations except for safety features such as seat belts and turn indicators or period accessories and options, if desired.

The registered operator must be a member of a Roads and Maritime recognised historic vehicle club (http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/documents/roads/registration/get-nsw-registration/vehicle-sheets/historic-vehicle-clubs.pdf).

If you have further questions, please contact Roads and Maritime Services on 13 22 13.


Yours sincerely

Roads and Maritime Services

[gtc]

The registered operator must be a member of a Roads and Maritime recognised historic vehicle club

I reckon that ought to read "must be a current financial member ..."

[gtc]

Interesting. Would be better if you could keep your own plates on the vehicle.

I wouldn't mind needing a window sticker if I could keep my plates.

[sabre]

Looks like middle ground between current NSW and Victorian schemes.

[Lefty]

Does this mean an amendment is required to the clubs constitution to recognise this change?

Lefty

[VETTENUT]

When all details of the trial scheme are known, we will look at what possible changes may be needed to our historic vehicle constitution, and to any Club operating procedures.

[Vettech]

Sabre. How did you read that file. I tried opening and it looks like machine language ie gobley gook.

[bfit]

I fell the under laying reason long term for this posible change , will me more and higher government fees
Be wear the trojan horse.
Bfit

[StephenSLR]

I feel the underlying reason long term for this possible change will me more and higher government fees
Beware the trojan horse.
Bfit

Absolutely, it could be just the incentive to get all those historic cars out of garages collecting dust and onto the roads and paying fees.

;)

s

[sabre]

Sabre. How did you read that file. I tried opening and it looks like machine language ie gobley gook.

Any pdf (printer definition file) application will open it. Adobe is the common one but there are lots of competing brands. You should be able to download one for free.

[sabre]

I fell the under laying reason long term for this posible change , will me more and higher government fees
Be wear the trojan horse.
Bfit

I suspect you're right Bfit. I was talking to a Victorian using their scheme. He said their rego is $360 for the 90 day use registration. Didn't say if that included CTP. My reading is that at this stage you can stay with the current system or opt for a trial of the new one. If that remains and you currently manage with just club runs and the occasional private run, you probably wouldn't change. If it is offered however, some on full registration currently, who use their car less than5 times a month, might get a better deal. As Vettnut said, more details needed.

[StephenSLR]

I suspect you're right Bfit. I was talking to a Victorian using their scheme. He said their rego is $360 for the 90 day use registration. Didn't say if that included CTP.

Talk is the NSW system will be pro rata, so for 60 days out of 365 days, it'll be:

60/365 x current rate

or 16.44% of whatever you're paying now. I believe the discount rego price will be introduced first then the insurers will eventually get on board.

s

[Camo]

Topics have been merged into the one

Camo

[rosco]

Totally correct and I did remember you stating that last night.
Just thought I would get it out there for the members that did not attend last night.
Having a look at the clubs that have already opted in, (very few at this stage)the majority are the custom clubs.
It would appear all our club needs to do is send of the email to opt in and away we go.
It looks like a win win for the first two yrs and then can re-evaluate .

Rosco

[darren lilly]

G'day does anyone know if a vehicle over 30 years old but been converted to rhd still qualify for this type of rego, I have checked local rms a few months back but they said it wouldnt due to the conversion but they also told me other stuff that was found to be incorrect. Thanks

[toyvet]

Please call me 0423 251 121

Jorge ( club plate registrar )

[sabre]

All the advice indicates any vehicle currently on historic rego is OK and that the next phase will include significantly modified vehicles.
I did read that any modification to make a vehicle compliant with Aust standards was not considered a modification for historic rego.
My reading indicates RHD conversion will not be a problem providing it has been approved ie currently registered.

[Rusty nuts]

Hi all,
        The Historic plate registrar (Jorge), is adding our club to the RMS trial classic car registrar, this means that if you wish to try this system ., you can! RMS is also going to trial modified classic rego, Do yourself a favor, and check out the RMS website so you have an idea of what is required of you ,before you ask Jorge to help. You must fill out a log book,and that logbook will be supplied by RMS (you have to pick it up yourself). If you fail to keep the log book up to date fines occur and loss of rego. It is possible to retain you rego plates, but again check the RMS website and know what you get and are responsible for.   bye for now R.N.

[gtc]

...  check the RMS website and know what you get and are responsible for.

Here: http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/registration/get-nsw-registration/historic-vehicles/log-book-trial.html

If you are converting from full registration to conditional registration, you must surrender the full registration and number plates. You may be eligible for a refund of the unused portion of the vehicle tax or registration charge. Please note that a cancellation fee applies. You may also have the full registration number plates reserved at the registry or service centre or issued to a different vehicle for a fee. Distinctive historic vehicle number plates are issued with the conditional registration for a fee.

[Rusty nuts]

More to the RMS sager,  We as a club have applied to RMS for addition to the new" historical plate register  "  . We now have to wait to see if the RMS accepts our request, for addition to the new trial, as not all clubs will be accepted,( why I do not know ). It seems that this trial is to be taken by a trial amount of clubs, maybe it is easier for them to manage, I do not know. Well we have done all that we can to get the ball rolling now it is up to the RMS>   Stay tuned "same battime, same batchannel" WE wil keep you informed.  RN