NSW Corvettes
Technical Tips => Engines - Carbies - Exhausts - Dissys => Topic started by: blade83 on December 03, 2004, 01:25:22 AM
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Hi guys,
I've decided not to invest any time or effort into the stock L-82 350, its just not big enough for what im after :evil
What I do want is a Chev 427 Big block, Ive been looking solidly to find one, although I can't seem to see one for sale anywhere, does anyone have any ideas on where I can get one from?
Basically I want to work it before it goes in the car, then pull the old engine out, have the bay painted, replace everything else in the bay to new, rebuild the whole front and rear and put the new engine in :evil
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Blade if you can wait a few months, I'm looking for a big block project vette in the US which I will be taking the engine out ( sell) to be replaced for my secret weapon project!!! otherwise you can find the odd big block in the Trading Post newspaper or Just Parts mag at your newsagent,also listed in the parts mag are companies around Sydney and other states that sell big block Crate engines.
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Hey man, if its going to be a 427 BB you import, then consider that bad boy engine already sold :22:evil
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hey blade i just bought a brand new create engine from eagles in reversby 454 big block only cost me $6,200 and it comes with ever thing
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Eagles are getting popular with our club. Thats where I got my new blank 350 block and gear reduction starter motor. Had to deck the block, but then thats to be expected. Don't get Holleys from them. Got a price today for a 650 high performance model, double pumper. Well over $1100 and it was not the polished type. I have priced polished units from SA for $1000
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Awesome :22 I went out today and bought "Just Parts" magazine, and found an Advertisment for "Eagle auto spares".
You'll have to excuse this extremly noob question, Im used to Japanese import engines, so you dont really talk about short and long blocks ;35 my supra was a 3ltr twin turbo pumping out over 400 bhp and all I had done was an exhaust system :fun
The ad actually advertises a "Chev 427 Tall deck long engine" Now what the hell does that mean ;mmm Im still learning V8 speak ;35 Is that the complete engine? Obviously minus Carbs I understand that much :22 What else would have to be added to that to be complete?
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Hi bladey. I'll tell you what. I'm going to be there on Monday, or tomorrow if their open. I'll have a look at it, as it is probably in the show room, take a picture and post it for you.
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Wow you'd do that for me? sh#t thanks man :22:22 Never mind the beer, I owe you a head job or something ;35 your too kind man, I'd really appreciate that :22
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I'm not sure on the head........ ahhh Ok. Jokeing. Not a problem. I live at this place at least once a week so no drama.
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Heheh ahh well the offer is on the table ;35;35 on the internet you have to wonder who is serious and who isn't... Perhaps there is something else in my profile I can offer you
Naa seriously thanks heaps man, I owe you :22
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I'll post the pictures of your motor when I get them.
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What pics? ;35 tiny link for you to ponder ;27
Thanks again man, your a legend :{ Oh check your PM at DC :22
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Exactly, no problems. Nice, ahhhhh body trim.
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hehehe yours for the taking with a trip to QLD, the package is a little too large to post ;35
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Bugger. Replied To DC
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Great thanks man, are you coming here for the next brizzy show?
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Depends when it is. I'm out of the country in late Jan for a month.
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Ahh you lucky devil :evil its alright for some ;31
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Blade its good to see you saw the light on Rice burnners ( even though the TT Supra & Godzillas are Japans great cars) and turned to true American muscle cars! (especially BIG BLOCK VETTES). Cam do you ever sleep,you seem to be be on our forum 24 hours a day?????
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Hi Andy. My business gets pretty hectic, specialy this time of year and paper work keeps me going to all hours of the night so I use the Forum to unwind. Dont want to miss anything I can use.
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Bladey, Got your shots. The high deck is a truck motor, not the best for a vette, and its gone. But they have a 2 long motors. Two 454's. One at 425hp iron heads and one at 440hp alloy heads. $9300 and $10300 respectively.
Needed would be a Demon 750 carbie $850, Dissy $345 and a Starter motor gear reduction with indexing plate $400.
You might want to check out Rocket (http://www.rocketind.com) they have some nice gear and are cheaper in some areas. Owned by one of the top fuellers.
Phone 02 8825 1934 Mon to Friday.
Had to go so couldn't stay online at messenger. Here is a link to your pictures454 cubic inch motors from Eagles (http://community.webshots.com/album/226792612uZIbLD)The first picture of each motor has brief specs, from their data sheets, under the picture.
Grunt, Grunt, Grunt. Enjoy.
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Wow man, thank-you soooo much :22 I really owe you big time :22:22
Do you think a 454 will be much heavier than the 427? Ill of course use alloy heads for either, the 427 seems to be one hard bastard to find :b4
That one with the alloy heads 440 HP looks alright, of course its a little too "finished" for what Im after, no point in buying the engine already made up, only to throw half the stuff away cause its not good enough ;-- I'd be happy to find the 427 or 454 block, so I can choose all my parts from the ground up :22
What ever it takes to get a street trim Vette into the 10's and still be driven every day is what Im after :bold
Thanks again man Your much too kind :25
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427's are harder to find so I've been told. Try ringing Rocket. Their web site is only good if you know part numbers etc. You could get a motor built. Thats what I'm doing. Bare block with our own bits in it. Told the guy what I want as far as HP goes and reliability and he told me what I needed to do to get it. Sat down with him and went through all the calcs, dollars etc, only because I'm one to that sought of thing, but I did'nt have to. Any good engine builder can do that for you. You just need the dollars. Mine around $16000.
As I said before it's what is on the inside that counts. My little 350 will be about 375 to 400HP naturally aspirated, carbie not injection, and quite driveable around town. The 350 turbo auto has also been tricked up to handle the extra ponies. No use having grunt if you can't deliver it reliably. Auto cost around $2000 including new torque converter at around 2000 rpm stall, all new insides including case savers and shift kit.
The chap buliding the motor is the same chap doing the box. That way the left hand knows what the right is doing.
Lets us know what you end up doing. Don't know about weights between the 427 and 454. Never built one that big in cubes.
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im prity sure they weigh the same as they are the same size
blade for what u want to do i would wait and get the motor off 69 dirty rat as it will be a 427
what u want and will be running and u can play with it and change things on it as funds allow and andy will do u a good deal ;28
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Yes they seem to be bloody hard to find, Ive been pouring through this parts mag for days now, and there are only a few references to the 427, mostly parts for it not the engine :(
Mmm I think you're right MJ355, that 427 in the Eagle auto add, mentions nothing about it being a truck engine, if I buy the engine from dirty rat, Im guaranteed it came from a Vette :22 And start from scratch.
As for transmission, I plan on running a 3.73 or possibly even a 4.11 diff, so Im going to go for a TH-700R4 because of its overdrive to keep the revs a little more friendly.
Is there any way of getting in touch with Dirty rat? email?
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Originally posted by blade83
The ad actually advertises a "Chev 427 Tall deck long engine"
Tall deck was the give away I have learnt. Thats what goes in trucks. Learning each day.
I'll probably see Andy, Dirty Rat On Tuesday club meet. If he has not replied to your post by then I'll let him know you are looking for him. Click on his or anybodys PROFILE and if they have an email they want public it will be listed there. Profile button is at the bottom of each members post/reply.
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heheh thanks man, That some new info for me too :22 If you could tell dirty rat to get in contact with me that would be great, Ill send him an email anyway, and Ive already sent him a V2V or U2U whatever it is ;--
Thanks man :22
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i just sent him a sms for ya
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Blade,I sent a U2U.Did you get it? Otherwise Email me andymoanie@hotmail.com
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Thanks man, I sent a reply :22
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A tall deck has a deck height of 10.2" from the centre line of the crank to the block cylinder head face. Std block is 9.8".