NSW Corvettes
Technical Tips => Importing - Cars & Parts. Also RMS (RTA) Regs => Topic started by: bfit on June 21, 2011, 03:23:41 PM
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this will make for interesting reading
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsi/vsi_04_registration_of_imported_vehicles_in_nsw_24_may_2011.pdf
I have been informed that
there is a meeting in the next few weeks to discuss further restrictions
Its going to get harder to get Full Rego in the near furture
Bfit
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Anybody have a summary of the changes between Rev 4 and Rev 5 of that document?
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I have not red but think this is it
http://journal.mtansw.com.au/10/oct/files/VSI4RegistrationImportedVehiclesNSWRev4_29Sept2010.pdf
Bfit
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Thanks. All we need now is a summary of the differences.
Would have been nice of the RTA to put change bars in the margins, but then when did the RTA do anything useful?
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I will be reading it in full tonight
From what I have read so fare there is some ambiguity
obviously there are trying to slow down or stop the imports
to counter the exchange rate making importing cheaper
get back to you on this
Bfit
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I have not yet been able to find out if this is a gazetted law or just guidelines
NSW RTA seem to be a law of their own
a state whit in a state
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING ( 1984 )
Bfit
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I have not yet been able to find out if this is a gazetted law or just guidelines
NSW RTA seem to be a law of their own
a state whit in a state
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING ( 1984 )
Bfit
All I can say is.....Thank Fook I'm Regoed:bannana:
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It seems to clarify a lot of questions which regularly get asked on the forum RE seat belts, blinkers colour, head lights etc. I dont think there is anything untoward in that document that hasn't been in place since they introduced the RAWS System in about 2000.
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I was asked at the club meeting to bump this thread up :hi:
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This was just sent in by Deb (Events Co-ordinator) An email she received..........
Hi All
For those that are interested in the NSW Vehicle Standards (VSB14) here is a link to the site page, its a multi part document and explains what amendments to the rules the RTA want to put in place by the time the VSCCS (new engineers scheme) is ready very soon.
http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/vehicle_regulation/bulletin/vsb_ncop.aspx
This is the Guideline to which we will have to build our cars as the future unfolds, there are things that stand out and need to be addressed as a matter of concern and they are being addressed as we speak with consultation by the ACMC Inc and other very important parties of which most are doing this voluntarily for the good of the Motor Enthusiast.
If you have any feedback please forward it to the ACMC Inc contact link page on the website - http://www.confederationofmotorclubs.org.au/index.htm
Pass this to each and every Enthusiast you can who wishes to know all the rules that are being proposed for modified cars in NSW.
Regards
Mick Saide
Business Development Manager
Shannons Ltd Newcastle
0448203025
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There are some very good points in the make up of these intended changes
However with most government changes to any laws or guide lines
The under laying agendas are hidden in the detail.
Ones need to read carful all of the paper work that is on the RTA sit concerning this matter.
One has to point out
That when talking to Politicians or their representative
You must keep in mind that old adage about Politicians
Referring to how do you tell if a Politician is lying.
Bfit
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I was talking the a tech rep at the RTA yesterday about the rego process for my 70 model
I was told that for that model all the is required is blue slip, weigh bridge certificate. and import paper work.
it you have a any question
RTA Technical inquiries 1300 137 302
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I was talking the a tech rep at the RTA yesterday about the rego process for my 70 model
I was told that for that model all the is required is blue slip, weigh bridge certificate. and import paper work.
This is almost correct if the car has not been modified in any way and is as manufactured.
ADRS #4 and #5A would definitely apply and depending on the month of manufacture ADRS #7 and #20 could apply.
ADRS #4and #5A relate to seat belts
ADR #7 is about hydraulic brake hoses
ADR #20 would only apply if built after July 1970
:beer:
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Just in by Deb W. Copy of an email sent to her
" Hi To All
Below is a link to the first official piece of communication from the RTA NSW for Modified Vehicle Motor Enthusiasts regarding the meetings the ACMC Inc have undertaken in the last few months.
The link at the bottom of the webpage is the PDF of this document so you can download it, please feel free to email the ACMC Inc with any comments and feedback you wish them to table as things move forward via their Contacts page.
Please keep all comments constructive and free of obscenities, the ACMC Inc thankyou all for being so patient as they build momentum regarding the Modified Car Rules for the future of the NSW Motor Enthusiasts.
The ACMC Inc would also like to thank all of its affiliates for their solid support throughout this important consultation and also wish to thank their advisers from Local Government and the Engineering Signatories, there is much work still to be done but the Modified vehicle Motor Enthusiasts of NSW can rest assured that everything possible is being done for the best outcome across the board.
http://www.confederationofmotorclubs.org.au/news.htm
Please pass this to all of your contacts.
Mick Saide
Business Development Manager
Shannons Ltd Newcastle
0448203025 "
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There are some things obviously that need to be rectified
Light being one
Indicators headlights etc.
Seat belts should be replace with the appropriate items
( how ever I know of quite a few vehicle that have been registered with the original American belt in place)
Most of us would not put our loved ones in a vehicle we know to be unsafe
it is surprising the difference approach between a vehicle built before and after 1972
Bfit
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19 December 2011
VSCCS provides one stop shop for modified vehicles
Roads and Maritime Services (RMS) has announced a new scheme which aims to streamline the assessment of modified vehicles.
“The new Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme (VSCCS) comes into effect from today and is good news for RMS customers as it will provide them with certainty their modified vehicle is safe,” Director Regulatory Services Peter Wells said.
“The new scheme does not change the existing vehicle standards but improves the way vehicle modifications are checked and certified,” he said.
“Every modified vehicle owner has an obligation to ensure their vehicle complies in order to protect themselves, their passengers and other road users.”
“The VSCCS will replace the current Engineering Certification Scheme. The old scheme is outdated and paper based, leaving it open to fraudulent certifications and missing records,” he said.......
Click HERE (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/news/2011/111219-vsccs.html) for more
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I received a info sheet from the MTA yesterday
that mirrors the posting link above
IT is a brief statement that covers a vast subject
the detail will be in the fine print that accompanies the legislation
Time will tell if this works or is just the start to phase out modified and custom vehicles and take away another of our choices
Big Brother is watching
Bfit
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VSCCS provides one stop shop for modified vehicles
Has anyone had experience with obtaining a VSCCS certificate?
I hear this is now a new requirement for NSW registration for all imported vehicles.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/authorisedinspectors/vsccs/index.html (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/authorisedinspectors/vsccs/index.html)
I don't know how they can call it a one stop shop, you also need a blue slip according to the RTA site.
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/getnewrego/importedvehicles.html (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/getnewrego/importedvehicles.html)
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Far kernel
Like every thing in life you have to make the best of any situation.
Work around what ever barriers the government put up.
Be skeptical of any one that has a vested interest.
When a politician gets involved its to promote their own agenda Remember if the mouth is moving they are lying.
Its about paper work and being able to have some one to blame when the feces hits the Fan.
Bfit
Ps
think about this in the long term
quote Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
“If you treat an individual as he is, he will remain how he is. But if you treat him as if he were what he ought to be and could be, he will become what he ought to be and could be.”
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I hear this is now a new requirement for NSW registration for all imported vehicles.
After asking around, it's not required if the car is pre Aug 1972 and unmodified, then you only require a blue slip ... apparently.
s
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Unmodified is ambiguous to say the least
they require you to modify the seat belts
head lights . indicators to some extent depending on year of manufacture
and they want a weight bridge certificate to verify the curb
Then there is the BS about having to see the Chassis number on the chassis
It being on the window pillar is not good enough
weight
A good thing to know is the month the car was manufactured a 73 model could have been manufactured in September 72
Hence in Australian law its a 72 model
Bfit
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they require you to modify the seat belts
If the car is pre Aug 1972 and 'stock' it doesn't need a seat belt upgrade.
s
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Seat belt to Australian standards
you will find it is part of the criteria for rego IN NSW
and if the car has lap only like a lot of C3`s
they will want lap sash
I find that hard to swallow
as 90% of our Australian standards are based on American testing standards.
one has to keep in mind that the government is endeavoring to generate work, hence more taxation and more revenue
Bfit
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Seat belt to Australian standards you will find it is part of the criteria for rego IN NSW
I know of old 'stock' cars with rego that have the US belts, I was told I could get away with no belts in the rear because back in 65 they didn't have them. However because mine is 'modified' if I want belts in the rear they have to conform to ADR
I find that hard to swallow as 90% of our Australian standards are based on American testing standards.
I agree and it's that 10% that'll get ya.
The US belts of old had a lever on the buckle that you lift to release the belt. The Aus. designers thought that if the car rolls and you're hanging upside down by the seatbelt it'll be easier to release you if the belt is of push button design.
s
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Some times its best to comply with the authorities biding on the minor items
and not have to deal with the BS they go on with
especial when it come to seat belts
If you happen to have a 68/72 vette and only lap belt,
the belt are only bolted to the fiber glass body
there is plates mounted under the body to spread the load in a collision.
Also there is a cable attached to the chassis and retaining plate
in the trany tunnel
I have not seen anything holding the outer retaining point at the door opening
I would not like to depend on that in a high speed accident
they insist on the Australian standards belt
and don't seem worry about what they are bolted to
I have known of cars that have been so called engineered and the original belts have been passed only last year
I know of a car that have been past.
that is post 72 and goes to a garage and gets a blue slip issued
Car registered and nothing has been changed to Australian specs
Bfit
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I have known of cars that have been so called engineered and the original belts have been passed only last year
Yeah, I hear similar stories, it seems different engineers can have different interpretations of the rules, what one passes another rejects.
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I have known of cars that have been so called engineered and the original belts have been passed only last year
Yeah, I hear similar stories, it seems different engineers can have different interpretations of the rules, what one passes another rejects.
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If you read back through this thread
you will see the problem I run in to with one engineer,
That was not in favor with the RTA at the time
Cost me dearly in time and money.
Bfit