NSW Corvettes
General Discussion Area => General Chat => Topic started by: bfit on May 20, 2014, 01:00:12 PM
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Here a question some one may be able to answer
What constitutes a rear car
A good number of corvette advertised are
RARE cars
Is that car a one of hand built car
Or one of a 1000000 production run
Or say one of a 30000. Productions run.
Its interesting to see so many RARE cars of similar years etc
Advertised constantly all RARE examples of a production car interesting !
May be these cars are RARE, because the car the seller has,
is a one of car.
Ie one of the one of, they have to sell
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Bfit
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Hello Bfit,
I think this question has been raised before.
Rare.. well, if its a low volume and numbered car, you may consider it rare.. say only 300 made of 25,000 is rare. Or something like the L88 Corvette is a Rare Car.
Rare could also mean priceless because they just don't exist anymore, or not many examples survive. Its a matter of opinion.
Its like this... when someone the other day said to me, why did a buy a C4 Corvette, when theyre common as dogs kahoonas , when you could have bought my corvette, which there is only 5 in the world. And my first reaction was that I would have just the same amount of fun, for half the price! and:
When you put your car up against any other red corvette (I wont mention the year), to the average person, and not an enthusiast, its all the same, so why would I pay what your asking for it!!
So to cap of the rare question, does it really matter?.. it may give you bragging rights, but in the scheme of enthusiasm, it doesn't bl__dy matter
LOL
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good points
how ever, that reasoning does not account for so many RARE corvettes up for sale.
Bfit
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Whilst some mau be of genuine reasons, the truth from what i have found is that a financial crisis is about to strike. Don't believe what the news or the media portrays, do your own research. Its not all rosy at it may seem.
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good points
how ever, that reasoning does not account for so many RARE corvettes up for sale.
Bfit
The most common "over use" of the term "rare" is used when a car is "estimated" to be 1 of 20 (for example)
Usually, its just because it happens to be optioned a particular way.
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A dictionary definition of rare: "not often seen or found, and therefore admired or valued very much".
But advertisers don't care about the true meanings of words -- they use them as they wish. Hence caveat emptor!
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Gtc, too funny, you didn't mention that you were a lawyer?
Let the buyer beware!!
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A dictionary definition of rare: "not often seen or found, and therefore admired or valued very much".
There are a lot of exceptions to that definition, pick any of these :eek:
http://www.carsite.co.uk/news/article/top-10-worst-britishmade-cars-of-all-time/12818 (http://www.carsite.co.uk/news/article/top-10-worst-britishmade-cars-of-all-time/12818)
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The most common "over use" of the term "rare" is used when a car is "estimated" to be 1 of 20 (for example)
Usually, its just because it happens to be optioned a particular way.
now that is a logical point
The L88 of which a few were manufactured
and I read recently that there are more that twice that many claimed L88 in the US alone never mind the ones else where in the world.
there were some 200 69 model L88 vehicle
are they rare a number would have been scraped in the early days so is the 100 real one around
if yes then they are not rare.
Bfit
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Jesus Bfit you have a huge can opener dont you !!!
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I read recently that there are more that twice that many claimed L88 in the US alone never mind the ones else where in the world.
there were some 200 69 model L88 vehicle
Yes, there are more L88s and L89s and L71s officially certified by NCRS than were ever produced.
But only 2 of these were ever built.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/08/12/pics-monaco-orange-1969-zl1-corvette-convertible-at-bloomington-gold/ (http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/08/12/pics-monaco-orange-1969-zl1-corvette-convertible-at-bloomington-gold/)
That's "RARE"
And you don't see or even here of these very often.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2010/06/22/corvettes-on-ebay-1972-corvette-zr1-the-rarest-of-all-small-block-chevy-corvettes/ (http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2010/06/22/corvettes-on-ebay-1972-corvette-zr1-the-rarest-of-all-small-block-chevy-corvettes/)
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Yes, there are more L88s and L89s and L71s officially certified by NCRS than were ever produced.
But only 2 of these were ever built.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/08/12/pics-monaco-orange-1969-zl1-corvette-convertible-at-bloomington-gold/ (http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2013/08/12/pics-monaco-orange-1969-zl1-corvette-convertible-at-bloomington-gold/)
That's "RARE"
And you don't see or even here of these very often.
http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2010/06/22/corvettes-on-ebay-1972-corvette-zr1-the-rarest-of-all-small-block-chevy-corvettes/ (http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2010/06/22/corvettes-on-ebay-1972-corvette-zr1-the-rarest-of-all-small-block-chevy-corvettes/)
Mmm I see where your going
How ever what mates a low optioned production vehicles rare
Unpopular optioned vehicles at the time of production does not amount to rare
They are production bodies vehicles With optionsnotvaken up by the general population
Is that enought to make then worth more that any other vette of that same vintage
Bfit
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Mmm I see where your going
Is that enought to make then worth more that any other vette of that same vintage
In the before mentioned examples, if auction results are anything to go by, then I would say yes.
Put it this way
No one would pay more for a base engine, green car, with a red interior and luggage rack, just because its rare.
Rarity means nothing, if the options are not desirable.
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Auction results
Tend to be a result based on who thinks they have the bigger appendage .
Other wise why would a normal thinking person spend the sort of money that could house a family or three
To buy a car to hide in there storage facility.
Is that criteria for what makes a rare car
A vehicle that is in storage
Bfit
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Auction results
Tend to be a result based on who thinks they have the bigger appendage .
Other wise why would a normal thinking person spend the sort of money that could house a family or three
To buy a car to hide in there storage facility.
Some are genuine car guys (with very deep pockets) and some are just investors.
Those types of cars are pretty good investments, they defy the economy and keep going up in value.
http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/18/barrett-jackson-2014-1967-chevrolet-corvette-l88-sells-3-million/ (http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/18/barrett-jackson-2014-1967-chevrolet-corvette-l88-sells-3-million/)
Same goes for old European stuff, just more insane prices.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-02/ferrari-gto-becomes-most-expensive-car-at-52-million.html (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-02/ferrari-gto-becomes-most-expensive-car-at-52-million.html)
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As always, "worth" depends on the viewpoint of the potential buyer.
When reading an ad for any sort of product, it helps to delete all the subjective adjectives from the seller's description and concentrate on what's left.
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I see 'rare' on too many car ads. It's marketing speak like 'new and improved'. I'd classify an immaculate base model AU falcon as rare, but it still doesn't mean it would be worth much.
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gtc,. . very well said. .
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gtc,. . very well said. .
may be the good analogy
such as a low year production vehicle
1970 base car with 3 speed manual optioned trans base level motor
rare as rocking horse sh_t and worth ?
probably less manufactured supplied than the L88 in 1970
Rare as
Rust Free !
BFit
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Ah, this old chestnut.
In the end it's worth what people are prepared to pay for it. In the Mustang world I've seen a few 1 of 1 cars with Marti reports, one recently was the only one that came out of the factory ordered with a radio.
Would you pay much more for this option or way more than the same car in better condition without a factory radio?
Unlikely.
s
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Ah, this old chestnut.
In the end it's worth what people are prepared to pay for it. In the Mustang world I've seen a few 1 of 1 cars with Marti reports, one recently was the only one that came out of the factory ordered with a radio.
Would you pay much more for this option or way more than the same car in better condition without a factory radio?
Unlikely.
s
I'm with Stephen, an old saying sums it up quite well Tonto.....
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder :thumb:
Jethro
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The only time I'd go for these 'not so special' rare cars would be if I come across two in the basically the same condition at around the same price, then I'd go with the rarer of the two.
Edit: So for this reason it's advisable for the owner to declare the 'rarity' to make the car sell quicker than the next one without the features.
s
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Would you say that this car is " Rare" or just "Priceless" ??? :lol:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1928-Ford-Model-A-Roadster-Original-Steel-Suit-Hot-Rod-1929-1932-1934-1940-/291152068826?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43ca0400da (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1928-Ford-Model-A-Roadster-Original-Steel-Suit-Hot-Rod-1929-1932-1934-1940-/291152068826?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43ca0400da)
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Would you say that this car is " Rare" or just "Priceless" ??? :lol:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1928-Ford-Model-A-Roadster-Original-Steel-Suit-Hot-Rod-1929-1932-1934-1940-/291152068826?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43ca0400da (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1928-Ford-Model-A-Roadster-Original-Steel-Suit-Hot-Rod-1929-1932-1934-1940-/291152068826?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item43ca0400da)
Funny a mate of mine took me for a run in he's box stock immaculate 1928 Ford Model A Roadster the other weekend . Wasn't really my cup of tea but did have to take my hat off to just how brilliant the thing drove and was finished. When you then consider the only alternative back then was the horse and cart, the A model was state of the art automotive :thumb:
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When you then consider the only alternative back then was the horse and cart, the A model was state of the art automotive :thumb:
If you had the cash there were alternatives to the horse and carriage from the early 1900s.
By 1928 there had been a number of Ford models manufactured. The famous Tin Lizzie (model T) preceded the 1928 model A. It was produced from 1908 through 1927.
Leaving out the horseless carriage called the Quadricycle, the first Ford car was also called model A, but that was in 1903.
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http://youtu.be/S4KrIMZpwCY (http://youtu.be/S4KrIMZpwCY)
s
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Hey Guys, what do you think of this rare car ?..... the price is even harder to fathom..... :huh:
http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/cars-for-sale/1959-FIAT-ABARTH-2-750-JCW3243700?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fjustcars%2Fsearch%3Fcurrent_page%3D1%26urlname%3D%26search_location_state%3D%26location%3DEnter%2Byour%2Bsuburb%26radius%3D%26search_vehicle_type%3DCAR%26search_type_make%3DFIAT%26search_type_model%3D%26body_type%3D%26search_category%3D%26search_details_earliest_year%3D%26search_details_latest_year%3D%26search_details_lowest_mileage%3D%26search_details_highest_mileage%3D%26search_details_lowest_price%3D%26search_details_highest_price%3D%26search_details_transmission%3D%26ext_colour%3D%26condition_search%3D%26keywords%3DWhat%2Bare%2Byou%2Blooking%2Bfor%253F&backtext=Back+to+results (http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/cars-for-sale/1959-FIAT-ABARTH-2-750-JCW3243700?backurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fjustcars%2Fsearch%3Fcurrent_page%3D1%26urlname%3D%26search_location_state%3D%26location%3DEnter%2Byour%2Bsuburb%26radius%3D%26search_vehicle_type%3DCAR%26search_type_make%3DFIAT%26search_type_model%3D%26body_type%3D%26search_category%3D%26search_details_earliest_year%3D%26search_details_latest_year%3D%26search_details_lowest_mileage%3D%26search_details_highest_mileage%3D%26search_details_lowest_price%3D%26search_details_highest_price%3D%26search_details_transmission%3D%26ext_colour%3D%26condition_search%3D%26keywords%3DWhat%2Bare%2Byou%2Blooking%2Bfor%253F&backtext=Back+to+results)
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Now only if it was Yalla :grin:
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Just drop in a chevy engine in it and it would be even more rare. :banana: