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First timer - C4 or C3??

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bradmart:
Hi guys & gals,
Have been looking around at a few C4s, and after seeing a Mustang Club run this morning started thinking about C3s. This seems irrelevant I know, but as someone who is technically incompetent, and incapable of any repairs to a car, I can't decide whats going to be better - an older, more mechanically and electronically basic classic (ie C3/ Mustang Fastback/ Camaro) or something like the C4 which I absolutely love but has more electronics in it than the Chevy factory probably did at the time. Its inevitable I'm going to have to spend $$$$ on parts, and I accept that, but can anyone give some insight into the relative reliability of C3 vs C4?

Also a by-question - interiors of C4s. Most seem to be almost falling apart eg cracking around the dash screws, frosting plastic next to shifter, very worn leather on drivers side (hard to get in i know...), sagging panels. Granted I'm looking around the $30K mark or below so never going to get a top example, but is this the case with pretty much all of them? Has anyone completely restored an interior using a mechanic/ trimmer? How much did parts cost?

Thanks all - any help appreciated. Looking forward to coming out with you all on a club run some time soon!!

Cheers
Brad

Cameron 77C3:
There are many for's and against on both machines.  Me, I like the c3's just for the reason you pointed out.  Older design mechanics less electronics.  I'm told c4's are much more pleasant to drive and the suspension is far better.  Suppose thats why I'm going to change my suspension to c4 style.

I just did a complete rebuild on my c3.  I did most of it myself with some help from spray painters and engine builders.  I rewired most of it.  I wouldn't have attempted it my self if it was a c4.  Mind you this is coming from someone that grew up with carby v8's and no electronics in the cars in the 70's.

It's often comes down to personal  taste.  But you don't need to worry about electronics in the old C3's.  Just about any mechanic or auto sparks could work on them.

As far as parts go.  If you want to check out spare part prices the club has an account with Ecklers in the united states.

CLICK ME for there web site.

Best of luck and keep us posted.

Cam

Thunder Kiss:
Welcome to the forum bradinho.;32

I wouldn't be put off by C4s because of electronics.  I would probably put myself in the same boat as you when it comes to mechanical ability.

I've owned my '86 for around 8 years now and not had any electrical problems that weren't easily fixed.  As with any car, be patient and buy the best one you can afford.  Look for a car that has been profesionally converted and, again, don't be put off by worn trim or cracked plastics, they can be replaced or repaired.

C4 Corvettes are very comfortable cars to spend time in and could easily be used as daily transport if well maintained.  In fact, I used mine as a daily driver for around a year before I decided I wanted to look after it a bit better and only use it on weekends.

Just like yourself, I like older cars too.  I also have a '69 Mustang convertible and although it probably gets more attention from the general public, I know which car is nicer to drive, the Vette.

In the end it's your decision but I wouldn't give up my C4 for anything....;aywell, maybe a C5?

jolinari:
well if ur mechanical knowldege is not up to it! well that makes 2 of us...i have 72 and let me tell u 6 months ago...i had no idea about mechanics...but quickly with manuals and documentaion that you could buy...you will understand how things work and as a matter of fact C3 are not complicated cars...easy to fix and u could learn quickly on them..
but it all depends what is ur heart saying? u want the agressive look of the C3? or u want the comfort of the C4?
i guess it is subjective...but i am sure u would lean on one side more than the other!!!

Cameron 77C3:
What, not a c6 Thunder?

Cam

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