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Vettech:
There is a little guy in Nicholas Cage movies about lost American treasure, who finally knows something Cage and the girl dont, I think I now know how he feels, pretty hard to get one past Sabre, "BUT" I think hes wrong !.
Moog valve may be on all manner of gear including aerospace and missles, but they are not to be seen mentioned in wiki on power steering.
Of course our discussion was only up to 1987. Electrohydraulic moog valves may be in new cars electric steering now, but not in 87.
Power assit steering goes back before 1900 when a Mr Fitts.. installed it on a US truck - god I hope thats not an abreviated name.
Ummmm so there!...
but the principle of the torsion bar is fasinating. Read this 47 years ago, I still cant inderstand why the bar does not eventually break.?
bfit:
--- Quote from: Vettech on October 09, 2017, 05:01:59 PM ---There is a little guy in Nicholas Cage movies about lost American treasure, who finally knows something Cage and the girl dont, I think I now know how he feels, pretty hard to get one past Sabre, "BUT" I think hes wrong !.
Moog valve may be on all manner of gear including aerospace and missles, but they are not to be seen mentioned in wiki on power steering.
Of course our discussion was only up to 1987. Electrohydraulic moog valves may be in new cars electric steering now, but not in 87.
Power assit steering goes back before 1900 when a Mr Fitts.. installed it on a US truck - god I hope thats not an abreviated name.
Ummmm so there!...
but the principle of the torsion bar is fasinating. Read this 47 years ago, I still cant inderstand why the bar does not eventually break.?
--- End quote ---
As long a you keep the bar operating with in 70 % of its elastic limit it will last a long time.
but ( there is always a but.)
the torsion bar works in almost perfect cyclic conditions, its going to break one day usually at a change in diameter in the shaft.
Vettech:
The P76 v8 service manual had a fantastic set of exp diagrams and text on theory and operation etc very informative.
Breaking a bit like concrete.
sabre:
Oh Vettech, I would have been hung drawn and quartered for quoting Wiki. Not accepted by CASA or DGTA as authoritative.
You are of course right. Moog is a brand name. A company that makes high precision control and flow valves (amongst other things).
Again you are right their valves are heavily used in aerospace due to their quality.
I used the term "moog" generically like many use the term "biro" to refer to a pen.
In my past life "moog" was the description used for a high quality control valve with minimal hysteresis or backlash. Heavily used for hydraulic control of Guided Weapons and aircraft.
I have no idea who manufactured the valves in either the Saginaw or the BW rack although I suspect it wasn't Moog due to their higher cost.
I trust this clarifies the moog issue.
Vettech:
Now thats the Sabre we know and love - as sharp as ever.
And yes I'm getting like Bfit, relying on Wiki und Herr Doktor Google too much.
Once I would have jumped into my Encyclopedia Britanica, but the first burnt then along with all my underwater pics. :tears:
Oh well lifes a bitch and th.........................
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