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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2017, 08:45:07 PM »
Battery can't be too bad if it keeps starting car

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2017, 10:48:16 PM »
Get a can of Aerostart (you can also use wd40, hair spray, undie arm spray as last resort) start her up, when she faulters, give a light spray into intake, if she picks up and runs on the spray, and then faulters when you stop the spray - its a fuel problem. If it faulters on spray then it could be electrical.
If you are running original points (kettering sytem) check gaps and points condition (no pits or holes, splats).
Check capacitor, no cap = no ignition. Best way to check is - get a new one, I dont know many in the club who would have a metre to check caps.

when spraying etc, keep all your bits away from intake  esp face, eyes etc

If its  starting, then battery will be good enough, for the alternator to stall a motor it would require a near dead short, and "the smoke" would be a good indicator.

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 ( I once had an English car, the cap was screwed onto the moving base plate in the dizzy, came loose, & as it rattled around the ignition splatted on and off. I could not find it as I did not appreciate the importance of the cap, I end up making up & fitting CDI and only then did I see the loose cap.)
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2017, 04:37:40 PM »
OK, battery was fine but put a new one in anyway - still the same. Alternator charging fine

Put on new leads - still the same. Pulled a lead, plugged in a spark plug and have spark though not bright.

Put on a new HEI distributor cap with coil and rotor from new dizzy - ran great for about 5 seconds then died. Refused to start, so pulled a lead,  plugged in a spark plug and have no spark??

Starting to run out of options. Can't find a capacitor near the dizzy.

Only thing left is this relay or whatever it is in the picture that has the power wire from the distributor going to it as well as other wires.

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2017, 05:44:03 PM »
Ok, memory not good so I'll go out and awaked the chickens and mice and get my Hei dizzy out and refresh - at least now you know its Electrical. Back soon.
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2017, 06:09:49 PM »
Attached to the heater box bottom of pic

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2017, 06:11:07 PM »
Checked the inline fuse which is fine

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2017, 06:25:17 PM »
OK, battery was fine but put a new one in anyway - still the same. Alternator charging fine

Put on new leads - still the same. Pulled a lead, plugged in a spark plug and have spark though not bright.

Put on a new HEI distributor cap with coil and rotor from new dizzy - ran great for about 5 seconds then died. Refused to start, so pulled a lead,  plugged in a spark plug and have no spark??

Starting to run out of options. Can't find a capacitor near the dizzy.

Only thing left is this relay or whatever it is in the picture that has the power wire from the distributor going to it as well as other wires.

That looks like the horn relay
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2017, 06:26:55 PM »
Attached to the heater box bottom of pic

HORN RELAY on the other side near booster
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2017, 06:29:26 PM »
Checked the inline fuse which is fine

There is an inline  fusable link near the starter.
As I rembember it it comes into play as you let go of the key in the start procedure
 Worth looking at
Hot wire the engine and see if it runs
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2017, 06:41:37 PM »
Ok I'd forgotten how heavy these are. It's got a Accel HEI Cap with Super Coil and leads, the coil provides the HT directly via cap and leads to the plugs. On the outside there is a 5pin connector, one is power, three are from a connector wired into the base. The three wires come from the Electronic Module screwed into the base, it has  another connector which wires to the Hall Effect Module (under rotor) which is the electronic equivalent of the old points. On the base plate should be a Capacitor.

The following could be suspect.
1. Capacitor.
2. Hall effect pick up.
3. Ignition module
4. Main HT Coil

Also the 12v supply could be intermittent. I cant think what the fifth (5) wire is - maybe Tacho ???

Get  a metre to see if the 12v to the dizzy fails. We need to isolate each bit untill we get it.
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2017, 06:44:56 PM »
That relay maybe for the fan on "MAX" speed.
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2017, 07:15:43 PM »
How bout replacing the dizzy, have a new one here considering all these bits are on the inside.

Never replaced one before, can I just remove the old one noting rotor direction and put in the new one in the same direction?

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2017, 07:25:20 PM »
Before, I'd get it going, checking the 12v when it faulters, else you may go to the trouble only for the new one to fail as well due to faulty supply.
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2017, 07:30:25 PM »
OK, will check the 12V supply tomorrow morning. If it is, where from there?

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2017, 07:52:05 PM »
Well if its the 12v supply, it becomes a wire and or module chase. My knowledge is 78 up, not sure on 75 if they have  relay, anti theft or similar things in the circuit.
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2017, 07:59:39 PM »
no worries, we'll find out first and go from there. Bloody frustrating!!

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2017, 08:43:03 AM »
Have power to distributor and started this morning but again, cuts out.

Noticed dirty fuel pooling in the manifold this morning.

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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2017, 08:44:16 AM »
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2017, 08:45:41 AM »
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Re: Engine continually cuts out - 75 C3 350
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2017, 09:25:23 AM »
Suspect leak on RHS of carb