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aftermarket chassis
« on: July 02, 2014, 03:48:32 PM »
I have spent some time looking into the use of aftermarket chassis
I have not found any info to day,
does any one have any leads/ reference  to follow up
in regards  to the conversation at the club meeting last night

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 04:16:19 PM »
Hello Bfit,   I happened to be sitting next to John when he raised this matter... the company is called Art Morrison.. see I was paying attention for one...  :lol:

Here is the Link buddy....

http://www.artmorrison.com/55-57chev.php

and

http://www.artmorrison.com/53-62vette.php
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 04:42:01 PM »
Yes I know the company well
personally I like the  heartland custom chassis.
 
what I'm looking for is the changes in legislation to allow the use of after marker frames/ chassis
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 06:08:02 PM »


 
"what I'm looking for is the changes in legislation to allow the use of after marker frames/ chassis
Bfit"

First i've heard of that Bobby ?

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2014, 08:12:06 AM »
As far as my poor understanding of the matter goes, the chassis number is on the chassis, so the identity of the car is tied to the chassis.  If you were to bring in a chassis and stamp your current number onto it, there would then technically be two cars with the same chassis number.

To do it legally, you can bring in the chassis and use it to build a car using a donor body, but you have to register it as an ICV, which means modern engine and possibly other things.  The guys that built the mustang fast back for that Koshi guy on morning TV used a brand new shell and that's the way they went about it, hence it's powered by an LS engine.

Again, that's only my understanding and I could be completely wrong.

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2014, 11:57:58 AM »
changing chassis and using the original number would  be highly illegal
 If a replacement chassis is used then the car would need to be issued  with a new chassis number
and supporting  paper work.

First we need to know if the aftermarket chassis is able to be used  legally.
and know the exact laws that allow it or not

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Would the person who soared out your engine number be abreast of this  and know
the laws that apply   
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2014, 04:31:56 PM »
Reading through the ICV section, it looks like that's where it'll fit in, although that'd mean RHD as well wouldn't it?

http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsccs_brochure.pdf

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2014, 05:12:07 PM »
Scott that's one of the things I'm trying to find out
I have a lead through another member  in the RMS
I will follow up next week.
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2014, 08:54:34 PM »
Hi Bob i think he would know or could find out ill talk to you on the weekend ( before the Honey is opened)

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 06:32:30 PM »
Those chassis would be considered a new car. They arent reproduction chassis. Its completely new with modern suspension. You only have two options. Go legal with an engineer and all the correct legislation or stamp your chassis number in and pretend its the frame it was always registered with. Oh and by the way pray you never have a prang and the feds work it out.
A guy I know wrapt his turboed vl commodore around a pole. Even though vls came out turboed and this car had a factory turbo set up he was charged with driving a modified vehicle. His car wasnt a factory turbo car from new.

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 09:04:25 PM »
This is what is required
ICV Individually Constructed Vehicle
And all it intails
This document lays it all out
http://www.rms.nsw.gov.au/registration/downloads/vsccs_brochure.pdf
 It's just comes down to money in the end .
And it will have to be RHD That's a deal breaker for me
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 08:17:32 AM »
From that doc:
A vehicle is classified as an individually constructed vehicle if it has:

•   A production chassis which does not retain at least one of the original structural
crossmembers in the same place for that chassis

Is the front most radiator/bumper support classified as a structural cross member :)

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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 09:52:35 AM »
From that doc:
A vehicle is classified as an individually constructed vehicle if it has:

•   A production chassis which does not retain at least one of the original structural
crossmembers in the same place for that chassis

Is the front most radiator/bumper support classified as a structural cross member :)

Good point
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Re: aftermarket chassis
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 07:30:58 PM »
You's blokes are good quoting then RTA spec;s ... :thumb: :thumb:

Not wanting to hijack this tread, but can someone post a link that states / vehicles 30 years and older don't need to be converted to R/H drives ?


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Re: aftermarket chassis
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Re: aftermarket chassis
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